Comments on: Fine, SOA may not be a City. What about a religion?

By: Beginner’s Mind « HSI Developer Blog

Beginner’s Mind « HSI Developer Blog — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:18:03 +0000

[...] others are cheap decoys, yadda yadda. This part of the culture is best served by the religion metapFine, SOA may not be a City. What about a religion?hor, though, and there is no avoiding the phenomenon: humans are extremely religious creatures and [...]

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:45:36 +0000

Probably not a problem limited to SOA – I imagine OOP went through similar pains. I feel for all those misunderstood acronyms, especially once they fall into the hands of the marketers and have their meaning and lifeforce sucked right out of them. Eventually the marketers tire of them, and then, slowly, they become real again.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:43:57 +0000

It was in the spam filter. Wonder why?

By: Rob Eamon

Rob Eamon — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:41:08 +0000

(Have had trouble leaving a comment. Apologies if this is a duplicate.)

“…assuming his understanding is the original understanding, that the original “scope independent” definition he has laid out for the term SOA.”

The original Gartner-defined scope was SOA as an application architecture. Other analysts, most notably Anne Thomas Manes (http://atmanes.blogspot.com/) of Burton Group, scope SOA similarly to your view–at the enterprise level only. I’ve been promoting a scope-neutral view of SO since various people and groups want to use the SOA term at different levels.

Indeed, I wouldn’t mind if the term SOA simply disappeared!
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/message/9670

Like you, I long for an unambiguous and clear definition of SOA that is widely accepted. Alas, such a monster does not exist and so when someone mentions the term SOA, it is the wise analyst that asks them exactly how *they* define it, at what level of scope, etc.

By: SOA, ESBs and JBOWS, oh my! « HSI Developer Blog

SOA, ESBs and JBOWS, oh my! « HSI Developer Blog — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:41:15 +0000

[...] anyway, this may or may not resemble what people mean when they talk about SOA, but it is what I have managed to glean, academically speaking, from all the shrapnel that is [...]